Has the bottom fallen out of the growth/GTS paid content market?

[Mongoose]

I've noticed that ZZZ, Tetsu and a few others have either stopped releasing comics or moved on to Patreon. Are people not buying content anymore? Is it a problem with piracy? Anyone know what's going on?

[qzar9999]

Well, piracy has *always* been a problem with this stuff. It seems unlikely that it would've gotten so much worse within the last year that it drove everyone out of the market (though it did finally cause a change in how Media Impact does their stuff).

Tetsu's always been kind of a slow worker (though definitely worth the wait), but I have noticed a sharp decline in ZZZ's output. No idea why, though. Patreon may have something to do with it, as it seems like a more reliable source of money than just putting out a comic and hoping it sells. However, I don't see that as a likely culprit for the entirety of the problem...

I'd say send Z a message and ask what's up, but he isn't the best at replying in a timely fashion (or, y'know, at all).

I plan to start doing a few growth comics myself, once I get a couple of my outstanding debts paid off. Maybe in a few years' time I'll have an explanation right from the horse's mouth? lol

[make_her_grow]

Originally Posted by Mongoose

I've noticed that ZZZ, Tetsu and a few others have either stopped releasing comics or moved on to Patreon. Are people not buying content anymore? Is it a problem with piracy? Anyone know what's going on?

The problem isn't just piracy.

The problem is that when it comes to porn, this stuff simply doesn't sell as much. It's a niche market as it is.

And yeah, when most studios force themselves to go to straight up commissions, it tends to force content into a dry spell. Why? Because not a lot of people have the money to pay for commissions.

When it comes to expenses very few people have enough to make this fetish community a priority.

[Do_lit]

Originally Posted by make_her_grow

The problem isn't just piracy.

The problem is that when it comes to porn, this stuff simply doesn't sell as much. It's a niche market as it is.

And yeah, when most studios force themselves to go to straight up commissions, it tends to force content into a dry spell. Why? Because not a lot of people have the money to pay for commissions.

When it comes to expenses very few people have enough to make this fetish community a priority.

On the subject of porn, do you think non-porn giantess content would sell? Heard me out. I enjoy mainstream Giant content, a lot of times I feel they miss the mark like Attack of the 50ft Cheerleader or Downsizing.

[qzar9999]

Originally Posted by mike12

I never told sell contents cheap or free, a good work is priceless.
but i mean it's better focus on the giantess and growing women and make them better and sell them more expensive instead of adding for example giant male to it just for some more sales! you can sell it more expensive and make a unique giantess work instead of normal comic with various themes in a work

Originally Posted by Genev89

I think people want more. Why shouls i (not me, in generale) pay for a comic of 20 pages with giantess appear in 4 pages?
People are not interested in stories or charachter. People want 20 pages of growth, clothes ripping, giantess sex and so on. Story and characters should be absolutely tertiary. Thats the point to begin selling more. The problem are the writers of these comics.

Y'know, the thing both of you tripped over here (especially you, Genev) is equating what YOU want to see in a giantess comic with what EVERYONE wants to see.

Some people like giant men, or FMG, or whatever, in addition to giantess content. Some people actually do care whether there's a well-written story to go along with the fetish content. We all have different tastes, and you can't really fault content producers for making things with broader appeal.

Having said that, I will agree that it's really frustrating to buy a piece of content that's 80% setup/story and 20% fetish content. Happily, we at Interweb Comics know not to produce such works, and we make sure there's a fair amount of actual fetish content in every issue we release. It's a rule I've tried to stick to in the stuff I personally release as well. ^_^

Originally Posted by Do_lit

On the subject of porn, do you think non-porn giantess content would sell? Heard me out. I enjoy mainstream Giant content, a lot of times I feel they miss the mark like Attack of the 50ft Cheerleader or Downsizing.

I think it absolutely could, provided it's entertaining enough. Consider how successful the two Ant-Man movies have been. (Granted, part of that is because they're building on the established MCU, but still...) I mean, both of those movies have plenty of shrinking and growing in them, but they're also entertaining and well-made movies apart from that. The problem with something like Attack of the 50ft Cheerleader is that it's cheesy and low-budget. That kind of thing can still be entertaining for different reasons, but most of the time it's handled poorly enough that attempts at comedy fall painfully flat, drama seems hammy, and action feels stilted or dull.

I'd love to see a really talented writer and director take a giantess concept mainstream.

[Tiedefender]

Originally Posted by qzar9999

Y'know, the thing both of you tripped over here (especially you, Genev) is equating what YOU want to see in a giantess comic with what EVERYONE wants to see.

Some people like giant men, or FMG, or whatever, in addition to giantess content. Some people actually do care whether there's a well-written story to go along with the fetish content. We all have different tastes, and you can't really fault content producers for making things with broader appeal.

Having said that, I will agree that it's really frustrating to buy a piece of content that's 80% setup/story and 20% fetish content. Happily, we at Interweb Comics know not to produce such works, and we make sure there's a fair amount of actual fetish content in every issue we release. It's a rule I've tried to stick to in the stuff I personally release as well. ^_^



I think it absolutely could, provided it's entertaining enough. Consider how successful the two Ant-Man movies have been. (Granted, part of that is because they're building on the established MCU, but still...) I mean, both of those movies have plenty of shrinking and growing in them, but they're also entertaining and well-made movies apart from that. The problem with something like Attack of the 50ft Cheerleader is that it's cheesy and low-budget. That kind of thing can still be entertaining for different reasons, but most of the time it's handled poorly enough that attempts at comedy fall painfully flat, drama seems hammy, and action feels stilted or dull.

I'd love to see a really talented writer and director take a giantess concept mainstream.

I can agree with this. I do like a good story. It's just that some times I want to get to the action. Can't always get what you want.

I don't think Hollywood would do a good job. It seems they can't make just a good movie. They have to inject in your face messages. But if they can I would want to see them remake this scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7xeWGIenOQ

[Mongoose]

Originally Posted by Do_lit

On the subject of porn, do you think non-porn giantess content would sell? Heard me out. I enjoy mainstream Giant content, a lot of times I feel they miss the mark like Attack of the 50ft Cheerleader or Downsizing.

Personally I prefer stories that emphasize for the giant/growth content rather than the sex aspect. Or maybe I should say that I like the sexual content better when it happens naturally instead of the "I'm here to deliver your pizza, lets have sex" scenarios that we see so often.

Maybe that means I like GTS "erotica" rather than "porn"? I feel like the things that make the giantess fetish unique (the growth, clothes ripping, size comparisons, cramped spaces, and dealing with the real world implications of something as outlandish as someone's size having drastically changed) often get rushed or skipped over to get to the more traditional "porn action".

I guess I'm just weird that way.

[qzar9999]

Originally Posted by Mongoose

Personally I prefer stories that emphasize for the giant/growth content rather than the sex aspect. Or maybe I should say that I like the sexual content better when it happens naturally instead of the "I'm here to deliver your pizza, lets have sex" scenarios that we see so often.

Maybe that means I like GTS "erotica" rather than "porn"? I feel like the things that make the giantess fetish unique (the growth, clothes ripping, size comparisons, cramped spaces, and dealing with the real world implications of something as outlandish as someone's size having drastically changed) often get rushed or skipped over to get to the more traditional "porn action".

I guess I'm just weird that way.

"I want a story! I want to know what financial dire straits have forced this woman to pay in blowjobs for pizza delivery, cable installation, and home repairs and maintenance!"

Sexual content is nice to have, especially with the ways that size alteration makes for bizarre and interesting new things to try. But if you just want porn, well, the internet is already full of that. If you're making size fetish porn, it's nice to focus on the things that are actually about size fetish.

[Mongoose]

Originally Posted by qzar9999

"I want a story! I want to know what financial dire straits have forced this woman to pay in blowjobs for pizza delivery, cable installation, and home repairs and maintenance!"

And here I was thinking it was all just a thinly veiled excuse to show people having sex when in reality it was a deep tapestry of meaningful thought-provoking literary tales and social commentary... you've opened my eyes to the truth!

Originally Posted by qzar9999

But if you just want porn, well, the internet is already full of that. If you're making size fetish porn, it's nice to focus on the things that are actually about size fetish.

My point exactly.

[JBird]

Another factor could be life gets in the way. Things come up and take away any attention that could be given to making this sort of content.

[qzar9999]

Originally Posted by JBird

Another factor could be life gets in the way. Things come up and take away any attention that could be given to making this sort of content.

I mean, maybe? But there for a long time, Z was putting out like one comic a week. That seems like the kind of regular schedule that's a bit hard to suddenly disrupt, especially given that he wasn't the one actually making the artwork.

[JBird]

Originally Posted by qzar9999

I mean, maybe? But there for a long time, Z was putting out like one comic a week. That seems like the kind of regular schedule that's a bit hard to suddenly disrupt, especially given that he wasn't the one actually making the artwork.

But not every content creator is the same, which is why my statement was more generalized than specific to any one person.