Is it wrong? - Page 2

insomniac · 05-14-2007

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Originally Posted by Shamrock Of Doom

nothing heineous motivates me whatsoever, just have an interest of seeing shapeshifters and aestethics of metamorphosis, just capivates me to be honest. I'm just hoping there are not any malicious people in this place either.

Malicious people are everywhere on the internet.

However, what I've seen is those that are, say pedophiles, often screw themselves over by posting pedophilic material (the stuff you get arrested for) or asking for that kind of material.

gts4me · 05-14-2007

I've always sort of wondered whether liking this sort of thing is some sort of mental disease. I mean, fetishes have the reputation of being mental diseases.

But I've liked growth and breast expansion since I was a small child, strangely enough. It has always been my fetish even before I had sexual desires, but it wasn't until about a year ago that I realized this. I didn't know why I got so excited about watching these things.

And I can't think of ANYTHING that could have "disturbed" me or something in my young life to make me like this sort of stuff. Can any of you think of anything?

And it is easier on most of you guys since you are mostly (if not all) men. I'm a girl and I like seeing stuff happens to girls. >_>;;; I know that either makes me bisexual or means I wish I was those girls I like to watch so much. Both ideas disturb me and I am pretty sure for me it is the bisexual one, since I am a really submissive person and have a slight obsession with making friends with people who are taller than me (I like feeling small.)

Bareon · 05-14-2007

A "Fetish" is any interest that one has a strong affiliation for.. take for example Hard-Core NASCAR fans.. their fetish is.. NASCAR.. wow. who'da thunk.

Mental triggers and sexual desires are practically embedded within the human genetics, and details such as larger breasts,muscles, bodies,stomachs, "enhanced genes"(animal transformations) etc.. for people to have "better sexual partners" or basically to improve the survival rate of the human race.. and.. well guys fall within the same categories, but there not so advocated because the aggression of the male gender tends to cause more female transformation-oriented sites to occur..

OH yeah.. this survival pull is a double edged sword, cause along with the desire for a better partner, you also have some desires of how to improve yourself somehow.. happens with most all people.. you know.. or else there wouldn't be diet plans and people who make huge money off of weight-loss businesses..

Shrinkmaster22 · 05-31-2007

Well as far as the question of AR being wrong, if anyone notices that in almost all AR (in which a situation would involve little kids in the actual outcome of the process) nothing sexual takes place. So because of that, it can never fall under the catagory of pedophilia (who fans of that I feel are completly nuts and get what's comming to them in prison) and those who are fans of AR can have any number of reasons for having intrest and most of them are harmless. I'm a fan of AR (and it usually is from adult to teen) because I'm a fan of SW and both involve my being a fan of the whole over sized clothing concept, and being a fan of these doesn't mean I'm about to make it my life's obsession. So those who are fans of AR or any transformation can relax, these nothing wrong with a simple intrest in it.

blackshirtboy · 06-03-2007

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Originally Posted by Bareon

A "Fetish" is any interest that one has a strong affiliation for.. take for example Hard-Core NASCAR fans.. their fetish is.. NASCAR.. wow. who'da thunk.

I am sorry but I think it has to be said because everyone is thinking it: LOL OMG car fetish WAHAHAHAHAHA

Any way I know the AR thing has already been comented on alot on this thread but yeah, it's probably just an age thing.
Say you have someone in thier thirtys go back to eighteen-yeah, thats alright.
But thirties to below ten or something around that and you're on a rocky slope.

Clickme · 06-03-2007

It all comes down to the person. I also have the same hesitance to coming here sometimes, but that's something I have to right with myself.

In the end, no one can tell you what's right or what's wrong. Right and Wrong are simply ideas that each person tailors to fit their own view of the world into.

The only things in this world that are absolute are Change, Death, and Math.

No-Man · 06-03-2007

I don't really like AR. If people like it, that's fine and dandy. There is a line with that kind of stuff and I think people on here are pretty good about staying on the correct side of that line.

If there is a "wrongness" about transformation fetishism it's the objectification that comes with it. Much of the appeal of transformation (BE, TF, AR etc.) comes from the change, the magic and the strangeness of it. Transformation completely changes someone's life and we often enjoy seeing them deal with this change. Our enjoyment of their reactions also tends to lead to objectification (sometimes literally with inanimate tfs). The person becomes a helpless object for our sexual gratification.

Granted, it's probably preferable to objectify drawings on a piece of paper than to look at real life girls stripping for money.

Meh... I think the "badness" of porn or fetishism is in the minds of the people viewing/doing it.

PrBlahBlahtson · 06-03-2007

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Originally Posted by Clickme

The only things in this world that are absolute are Change, Death, and Math.

And taxes. Math is only constant until we realize that we misunderstood one of the basic rules of math, then it all changes.

Eviscerator · 06-04-2007

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Originally Posted by PrBlahBlahtson

And taxes. Math is only constant until we realize that we misunderstood one of the basic rules of math, then it all changes.

And, uinfortunately, our instruments are now so precise that our physicists are measuring gradual changes in the values of subatomic particles.

As far as malicious people? Yes, there are a few here, but we're generally harmless unless provoked.

Clickme · 06-04-2007

It gets into one's own morals. No one can tell you what you feel about something. Our morals are shaped from the moment we're born, but no one can change them for you. oh, they can warp, twist, and bend you're morals. What do you think the Government does with the soldiers at boot camp!? But no one can outright tell you what you believe is right or wrong. Just like no one can tell you what you were thinking of 4 seconds ago.

It sounds corny, but just trust yourself. Kokoro no hikari.

Arthax · 06-04-2007

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Originally Posted by gts4me

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And I can't think of ANYTHING that could have "disturbed" me or something in my young life to make me like this sort of stuff. Can any of you think of anything?

And it is easier on most of you guys since you are mostly (if not all) men. I'm a girl and I like seeing stuff happens to girls. <snip>

Well, my earliest memory of seeing a tf and thinking it sexy was when I saw this clip in the theater for the first time: http://youtube.com/watch?v=HK2O0wdtQKk
I think I was around 7 or 8 at the time, seeing the film several years after it had originally came out.

I only like seeing things happen to women and I never put myself in their place, though I usually imagine what they might be feeling. Of course, I certainly don't want bad things to happen to any woman in real-life, because I care about the feelings of others.

And as for thinking this is a disease of some sort, I would simply call this a preference that (maybe?) is just a little less common than, say, a foot-fetish- and I think _that_ preference is weird!

To each his own...

LostHopeOfDusk · 06-05-2007

Is not wrong, what can be wrong, and I mean wrong by the way people stare at you when you comment about it, is that you tell everyone offline about it, and then show them transformation art that includes sex/vore and so on. You can lose many friends that way…

Offline, try to say harmless things, like you favorite part of Pinocchio Disney movie was the donkey transformation, and things like that.

05-14-2007	#15
Bareon I'm not excited. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Viewing the stars of the future. Posts: 944	A "Fetish" is any interest that one has a strong affiliation for.. take for example Hard-Core NASCAR fans.. their fetish is.. NASCAR.. wow. who'da thunk. Mental triggers and sexual desires are practically embedded within the human genetics, and details such as larger breasts,muscles, bodies,stomachs, "enhanced genes"(animal transformations) etc.. for people to have "better sexual partners" or basically to improve the survival rate of the human race.. and.. well guys fall within the same categories, but there not so advocated because the aggression of the male gender tends to cause more female transformation-oriented sites to occur.. OH yeah.. this survival pull is a double edged sword, cause along with the desire for a better partner, you also have some desires of how to improve yourself somehow.. happens with most all people.. you know.. or else there wouldn't be diet plans and people who make huge money off of weight-loss businesses.. __________________ -BlueBerserker http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=254362 -- my Pixiv boobiez collection http://pixiv.me/baeron -- also works! 2x the links for 1x the page~! or somethin. Last edited by Bareon; 05-14-2007 at 11:02 AM.

06-03-2007	#19
No-Man Process Disciple Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,197	I don't really like AR. If people like it, that's fine and dandy. There is a line with that kind of stuff and I think people on here are pretty good about staying on the correct side of that line. If there is a "wrongness" about transformation fetishism it's the objectification that comes with it. Much of the appeal of transformation (BE, TF, AR etc.) comes from the change, the magic and the strangeness of it. Transformation completely changes someone's life and we often enjoy seeing them deal with this change. Our enjoyment of their reactions also tends to lead to objectification (sometimes literally with inanimate tfs). The person becomes a helpless object for our sexual gratification. Granted, it's probably preferable to objectify drawings on a piece of paper than to look at real life girls stripping for money. Meh... I think the "badness" of porn or fetishism is in the minds of the people viewing/doing it. __________________ "Because we're made out of wishful thinking and puppy farts!" -- Jack on why banality is bad for changelings

05-14-2007	#14
gts4me I am a girl Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 97	I've always sort of wondered whether liking this sort of thing is some sort of mental disease. I mean, fetishes have the reputation of being mental diseases. But I've liked growth and breast expansion since I was a small child, strangely enough. It has always been my fetish even before I had sexual desires, but it wasn't until about a year ago that I realized this. I didn't know why I got so excited about watching these things. And I can't think of ANYTHING that could have "disturbed" me or something in my young life to make me like this sort of stuff. Can any of you think of anything? And it is easier on most of you guys since you are mostly (if not all) men. I'm a girl and I like seeing stuff happens to girls. >_>;;; I know that either makes me bisexual or means I wish I was those girls I like to watch so much. Both ideas disturb me and I am pretty sure for me it is the bisexual one, since I am a really submissive person and have a slight obsession with making friends with people who are taller than me (I like feeling small.)

05-31-2007	#16
Shrinkmaster22 Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 457	Well as far as the question of AR being wrong, if anyone notices that in almost all AR (in which a situation would involve little kids in the actual outcome of the process) nothing sexual takes place. So because of that, it can never fall under the catagory of pedophilia (who fans of that I feel are completly nuts and get what's comming to them in prison) and those who are fans of AR can have any number of reasons for having intrest and most of them are harmless. I'm a fan of AR (and it usually is from adult to teen) because I'm a fan of SW and both involve my being a fan of the whole over sized clothing concept, and being a fan of these doesn't mean I'm about to make it my life's obsession. So those who are fans of AR or any transformation can relax, these nothing wrong with a simple intrest in it.

06-05-2007	#24
LostHopeOfDusk Do not pet the kitty Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Argentina Posts: 2,002	Is not wrong, what can be wrong, and I mean wrong by the way people stare at you when you comment about it, is that you tell everyone offline about it, and then show them transformation art that includes sex/vore and so on. You can lose many friends that way… Offline, try to say harmless things, like you favorite part of Pinocchio Disney movie was the donkey transformation, and things like that.