Another Paradigm Shift process

[Shadow_Dragon]

Look's like she's at it again. And in a proper place too! Well... except for hunters...
http://www.paradigmshiftmanga.com/ps/p4-page38.html

Some signs of process but not sure if it will be as detailed as the last one.

[TF-Viewer]

Hmm, this one will most likely stop short of a full transformation. Seems it's being caused by emotional distress so my money is on her calming down and returning to normal on the next page or so.

[Anahki]

Originally Posted by TF-Viewer

Hmm, this one will most likely stop short of a full transformation. Seems it's being caused by emotional distress so my money is on her calming down and returning to normal on the next page or so.

Yep, +1 for that.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

I was following that comic for a while but too many violations of "show, don't tell" turned me off it.

[Shadow_Dragon]

Not sure I get your jist...

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by x?xShadow_Dragonx?x

Not sure I get your jist...

Look at the strip before this one: talking

And the one before: talking

And the one before: talking

And the one before: talking

and so on...



"Show, don't tell" is a rule of thumb in writing which means actions speak better than words so keep the exposition to a bare minimum. If you do need to have a back and forth convo going, at least keep things happening at the same time. The two protagonists have been driving around talking for what feels like forever now and it's really gotten irritating and repetitive.

[TF-Viewer]

Originally Posted by Lord T Hawkeye

Look at the strip before this one: talking

And the one before: talking

And the one before: talking

And the one before: talking

and so on...



"Show, don't tell" is a rule of thumb in writing which means actions speak better than words so keep the exposition to a bare minimum. If you do need to have a back and forth convo going, at least keep things happening at the same time. The two protagonists have been driving around talking for what feels like forever now and it's really gotten irritating and repetitive.

It feels that way because of the time between updates. In reality it was only a few pages. In the grand scheme of things it's not that long, a few pages in a series of several books. A story is being told, it can't all be TF scenes and gunfights. If you don't like it, stop reading it. Complaining here does no one any good, it won't change the flow of the story to match your whims, all it does it make you look like a smug little know it all who doesn't really know anything at all. If you think you can do better, go out and make your own book.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by TF-Viewer

It feels that way because of the time between updates. In reality it was only a few pages. In the grand scheme of things it's not that long, a few pages in a series of several books. A story is being told, it can't all be TF scenes and gunfights.

No, the story has come to a screeching halt to give us backstory. I'd say easily almost half the pages recently are exposition with no advancement in the plot. When a comic is updated infrequently, that's even MORE reason to keep the exposition snipped.

If you don't like it, stop reading it.

I did as I made perfectly clear in the first post.

Complaining here does no one any good, it won't change the flow of the story to match your whims, all it does it make you look like a smug little know it all who doesn't really know anything at all.

Ooh, how dare I give constructive criticism. Authors should never have to deal with that!

That was sarcasm by the way.

If you think you can do better, go out and make your own book.

I have, check the sig.

I don't just talk the talk you know. Play Time was originally a written story and I did cut out a lot so that the flow of the plot wouldn't get dragged down because I know how much that annoys people.

Also, I don't call people names when they offer constructive criticism. I may not change my comic every time someone has a concern but I do always take them into consideration. That's called being proffesional.

[tjlemke]

Originally Posted by Lord T Hawkeye

No, the story has come to a screeching halt to give us backstory. I'd say easily almost half the pages recently are exposition with no advancement in the plot. When a comic is updated infrequently, that's even MORE reason to keep the exposition snipped.

The writer is merely building the story up. And time-frame should't be an excuse to change how the story is told. Sometimes the pieces that took a long ass time are the best. I mean you say because of the few updates the writer should illustrate more action. I think that non-stop action is worse than having lots of back-story. That's my non-professional opinion as a writer and professional opinion as a reader.

Ooh, how dare I give constructive criticism. Authors should never have to deal with that! That was sarcasm by the way.

You gave criticism to the writer on..the..process..forum.....?

Wonderful idea! I'm absolutely sure the artist will totally get that and your 'criticism' changed how he sees life. Thank you from all of us for helping making that writer suck less.
That was sarcasm by the way.

That's called being proffesional.

What, where?!

[TF-Viewer]

Back story IS part of the story. It's pretty clear you aren't a writing major or a published author so it's not as though you have an expert opinion to share. Your DA stories are not "a book" and that web comic of yours is certainly not a graphic novel. You haven't done better. It's pretty arrogant of you to even try to compare yourself by mentioning your work alongside theirs.

Now since you've already established that you've stopped reading it, made up your mind about it, and have nothing to actually contribute besides whining about how it isn't the way you like it anymore... go find something else to entertain yourself with. I don't think anyone here wants to listen to you complain, I certainly don't. You don't seem the type that's going to stop even if I were to ask nicely (which I'm not in the mood to do) so I'm just going to ignore you.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Constructive criticism is what I did. I stated specifically what I was unsatisfied about the comic and did not at any point make personal attacks.

You on the other hand, in a grand display of projection, called me a whiner and deemed me unqualified to hold an opinion about said comic on the basis that I have not published a book or comic of my own.

If you can't understand why that's a legendarily flawed argument, let me present you with a parallel.

If you said that Batman and Robin was a terrible movie and someone came back with "Well you're not a director so what do you know?", what would your reaction be? Once you stopped laughing that is.

Protip: Don't use arguments that you yourself would not accept.

Wonderful idea! I'm absolutely sure the artist will totally get that and your 'criticism' changed how he sees life. Thank you from all of us for helping making that writer suck less.

Nirvanna fallacy. Try again

I think that non-stop action is worse than having lots of back-story.

Never said that. Action is just as capable of overstaying it's welcome but nobody said anything about endless fight scenes or anything now did they?
Polarizing is not an argument either.

[tjlemke]

Originally Posted by Lord T Hawkeye

Constructive criticism is what I did. I stated specifically what I was unsatisfied about the comic and did not at any point make personal attacks.

You on the other hand, in a grand display of projection, called me a whiner and deemed me unqualified to hold an opinion about said comic on the basis that I have not published a book or comic of my own.

If you can't understand why that's a legendarily flawed argument, let me present you with a parallel.

If you said that Batman and Robin was a terrible movie and someone came back with "Well you're not a director so what do you know?", what would your reaction be? Once you stopped laughing that is.

Protip: Don't use arguments that you yourself would not accept.

Sure but you don't say how you didn't like Batman and Robin at the Return of the King movie theater (when the Batman and Robin movie theater was across the street). If you're going to critique Batman and Robin, do it someplace more appropriate or at the very least sound less bitchy so everyone around you won't want to stap their ears with nails. I mean post your critique over there so you MIGHT do something than preach to the choir over here where nobody really cares.

Never said that. Action is just as capable of overstaying it's welcome but nobody said anything about endless fight scenes or anything now did they?
Polarizing is not an argument either.

And I never said you said that. I was merely pointing out how you said there was a lack of action and using the example that having more action doesn't necessarily make a better story.

Nirvanna fallacy. Try again

Wait wha-? How the hell is it the nirvana fallacy if I'm using sarcasm. It's like calling a mirage unrealistic. No shit it's unrealistic, IT'S NOT REAL!!