BE Story Club Presents: Spells R Us #4

[Kaosu Reido]

Originally Posted by SoylentOrange

Just so long as it doesn't go into "Why, yes, I've always been a cock-hungry slut with no self respect, why do you ask?"

Or "For the next two hours, I will love being raped!" Followed by "aw, this sucks, stupid potion".

Yes, Big Breasted Blonde Girl. Being raped sucks. You should never tell the guards what just happened to you when you're covered in cum and let them know that the people in the cell with you just added rape to their list of crimes. Just sit there and pout.

[ryantherebel]

I've just read it and now, I'm ashamed to be a human being.

[Snowglare]

Originally Posted by Kaosu Reido

Let me go into a little more detail for those who think "Eh":

The girl randomly has been sent to prison because the magic boob powers have retroactively removed her driver's license (also, her entire family is the size of houses; fat-wise. I just don't like that). Now it's assumed that she's stolen the car and was driving illegally.

The cops ignore everything she says, and then, I'm completely serious here, they take her down to the cells. One cop makes an excuse that "lolz the other cells are full you go in here", and proceeds to throw her in with some people who already look like seasoned cons. You know, 'cause the poor pretty girl with the giant boobs who may or may not be driving without a license should be thrown in there.

A comment is actually made by the cop that the felons should keep their hands off her. He then walks away, presumably into a sound proof booth a mile away due to what happens next, as opposed to sitting at a nearby desk to guard the potentially violent felons.

What happens next, by the way, is that they take all of two seconds to tear her clothes off, rape her, etc, etc. Cops hear none of this, by the way. Apparently it's the quietest rape ever, plus no cop ever thinks of doing a stroll by to make sure no one's hurt the obvious rape-bait.

Yeah. I should mention, this goes on for two hours, according to the comic, and the magic apparently makes her go "Yay! Rape!" until the end.

This is to say nothing about the demeaning tone the entire town has towards her, including random members of the public hanging around the hospital to see her, and then one guy ACTUALLY SAYING SHE DESERVES TO ROT IN PRISON DUE TO HER BREAST SIZE.

What.

I think it's important to note that this one comic is not the entire BESC, that there are other reasons to subscribe or not, but holy shit dude. Holy shit.

Originally Posted by dragon6860

Kaosu, I agree. They keep on saying, "It's a Spells-R-Us story." in response, but come on...I only think I read a one or two SrU storys, but i seem to remember a lot of them being male-female TF. I could be wrong of course, it's been a while. But was rape a large part of the stories?

I've read quite a few SRU stories, and although they tended towards the "wish goes horribly wrong" plot, they weren't a consistent squickfest. I don't think "mind controlled slut" stories are inherently bad, but you have to spin it a certain way. It's all too easy for it to become extremely uncomfortable to read, which seems to be the case here. It's one thing to use MC to give a bitch her comeuppance, or to lower inhibitions/increase confidence. That can still get creepy, but it doesn't have to, in my opinion. Bill Pratt and Fret Pearson do a good job of toeing the line between good and bad MC. Sometimes they tip over to the wrong side, but their stories are more about sexy fun than cruel punishment.

There's no fun in seeing a nice, if misguided, girl have her life completely ruined by an ill-advised wish. That's about as sexy as the scene in Leprechaun 3 where the woman who wishes for bigger breasts blows up (inflates) and then blows up (explodes), or the end of the otherwise hawt Faust BE scene, where the woman melts into goo. It's so... wtf? Why can't there just be sexiness, you know? Everyone gets horny and fucks. That's a good story, pornwise.

[blkpnthr]

sad... i wont get to see this, live at home no income

[Kheben]

Honestly I think the problem is two-fold. One, the author went overboard in terms of just how much the potion screwed her life up (as mentioned, a common theme in SRU). Two, he didn't wait til the end to kind of make the point. Instead, it starts pretty early and then completely dominates by this latest part. There's no fun, no BE fetishism, et cetera anymore, just the moral of "YOU'RE BONED, HAHAHA!" And the whole public outcry versus huge breasts is outright surreal to see in a BE story, no matter how dark it gets.

As for the whole mind control thing - I understand a lot of people around here aren't as much into MC in general, but in all seriousness it isn't even the MC that's screwing her over so much in the story. It's more the change in reality than anything else. Yes, the MC causes her to enjoy the sex/get into the gang-bang and all that, but it isn't the underlying cause of why her life is being so utterly destroyed. Then again, we don't see whether or not her intelligence is fully intact outside of her own mind or whether she only acts against her will/differently from her original mindset when confronted with sex/around that one guy.

Personally, I don't mind MC stories. But when the entire point of the story goes into full blown "this person is getting utterly screwed and gets no joy out of what's going on," you're definitely crossing the line into that whole "bad MC" territory.

Oh and a quick edit about the comment on her family being huge as all holy hell - Look at her at the beginning of the story. I'd say it's fairly easy to assume her family was pretty fat in the first place. They were that size before the crash as well.

[catfish27]

Heck, I've been feeling a little bit squicky about "Dream Girl" since the scene involving the school administrator in Part 2 -- but I managed to choke down the bile because I do enjoy a certain amount of MC, not to mention changes to reality, in my erotic entertainment.

To me, it doesn't really have the tone of a "canon" Spells 'R' Us story. It's kind of playing out like a "Twilight Zone" episode. At this point, we're in the commercial break between Act II and Act III, and it's hard to tell whether Liz is going to wake up from a dream to find out that she's actually been transformed into a small-breasted prude, or whether Carlos is going to show up and decide he doesn't like Ana and wish her into the cornfield, or what.

That's why I hope the "finish 'Dream Girl'" contest does come to fruition -- I think it'll temper the ugliness in Part 4 quite a bit if there's a Part 5 that takes the story in a more, shall we say, happy direction (followed by a Part 6, Part 7, however long is necessary). Then we'll have a closing narration by Rod Serling, and then it'll be time to turn off the TV and go to bed.

[dragon6860]

Catfish, I forgot about the principal scene, but to be honest, I was sort of ok with that scene BECAUSE he got caught, arrested, and all the bad things that should of happened did. I don't mind mind control if it's shown as a bad thing that people are trying to stop. I mean, my story on the BEASC has some mind control at the end, but they're trying to stop it, so it's a bit different. It's only when the mind controll is shown to be a plus, that i get really squicky.

Like there was one story, I forget which, where some guy got married to a girl, and in the house, he had (I think) promiently displayed, photos of big boobed girls, which he kissed every night before bed. Later on, he sent his wife somewhere where she got big boobs, and a IQ reduction. Standard Bimboification story, but the way the guy acted really creeped me out.

[ryantherebel]

Originally Posted by catfish27

To me, it doesn't really have the tone of a "canon" Spells 'R' Us story. It's kind of playing out like a "Twilight Zone" episode.

Minus the good writing.

[Blake Isaac Gordon]

Originally Posted by Kaosu Reido

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Originally Posted by SoylentOrange View Post
Jesus christ, nothing's changed at all. Whoever runs the BESC has such a hard-on for bimbofication I shudder to think what their relations (if any) with actual women are like.

"Get back in the kitchen and make my dinner, bitch! Women aren't good for nothin' but pleasin' men!"

Just... ew.
It's Tenebrae.

I have to jump in on this. I know Tenebrae pretty good and I do know three things:
1. He doesn't run BESC, he's just an editor.
2. He thought issue four of SRU Dream girl did not turn out well. (He actually said something else but he can give a direct quote if he prefers.)
3. The above comment is not his MO.

But... The whole SRU Dream girl is something the BESC should seriously consider to reevaluate. It was some time in 2005 when the first notion of "Create a Comic for the BESC" came out. Not many people put in for it. I was one individual.

The link: http://forum.bearchive.com/showflat....0/fpart/1/vc/1

The main thing is any story that the BESC puts out is (either directly or indirectly) a representation of the site. Dream girl had huge promise. By issue two I was chomping at the bit for more. Issue three had the entire community clamoring, "OMG what will happen next!"

But...

Issue four was one big crap shoot, and the fact that the current 'Caretakers' of the BESC state they lost contact with Anonymoose(sp?) makes me wonder about the 'infrastructure' of the site. The place barely functions with the promise of two stories a month.

Yet, I'd recommend any story by Laelia. There are small points of light within the darkness.


But bottom line: SRU Dream Girl offended me and makes me a little ashamed that I like BE.

[dragon6860]

Blake, Thank you for your post, it's always good to get a somewhat insider's point of view. Thanks for clearing it up and answering some questions! And yes, I have to agree that this comic made me ashamed to like BE.

I once showed one of my ex GFs some art done by Johnny Swell, and she actually really really liked it. I'd never ever show her that comic, which is too bad, as Portal actually does some very nice art.

[Prophet Tenebrae]

Thanks Blake...

I do not own or run the BESC, I'm just getting paid to edit stories... would that I got paid to suffer fools.

If people paid attention, they'd know that Dream Girl has actually been in production SO long, I wasn't even editor way back when it started and during my tenure as the BESC editor, I can honestly say that at no point did so much as a draft of the comic pass through my hands.

Had I seen the script for issue 4, my eyebrow would have headed skyward... even cursory reading of my stories will illustrate that the humiliation/exploitation themes of Dream Girl are pretty much diametrically opposed to my own personal preferences...

There are a fair number of MC/bimbo type stories... but then, that's a fairly prevalent theme in BE as a genre. It's not for me and clearly not for many of the people who have posted here but it's fair to say that you're never going to please all of the people, all of the time.

[gabe]

I usually don't chime in, especially on other boards, but I'd like to take this opportunity to say a few things. For those who don't know me, I am the current manager of the BE Story Club and have been for the past year.

First and foremost, let me say that I personally did not like the way SRU4 turned out. Art wise it was top-notch, as it always is when Portalcomic is on board. Story wise, eh... not my cup of tea. Now you may be asking, "but Gabe, if you personally didn't like the story then why release it?" Well, this comic had been in production since before I came on board. The script was done, some sketches were done and constant e-mails from users asking for the fourth chapter were frequent. It was my decision to finish the story as it was originally intended. I feel that it was more important to keep the original story as the author intended and the same artist who originally drew the first three chapters. I believed (and still do) that this was the best thing to do to preserve the comic as it was meant to be. I think more people would be angry at me if I tossed the comic into the abyss never to let anyone see it just because it may not have met the expectations or personal taste of some people.

Secondly, it bothers me to see people accusing the Story Club staff (including our editor Prophet) as being misogynists. It seems to be a bit juvenile to read one comic on an entire site, not like the story and then jump to that conclusion. There are many stories and comics on the BESC that don't deal with bimbofication. Go read some of the stories by Bill Pratt or read the free sample of Unstable Assets by Lorekeep (with new chapters in the works), just to name a few. If you don't like a story you have every right to bash it, it actually helps me find authors who cater to the general consensus and find themes members will enjoy. But why turn it into a personal vendetta?

Now for something constructive. If you have great ideas for stories or comics then why don't you send us a script? We are always looking for new authors who produce quality stuff. We do pay you for your work and we aren't misogynistic assholes as some people previously alluded to.