McCain bashed by Paris Hilton

[TrumanGrace]

Originally Posted by ElastiGirl

I believe there is limit to how close another country can come to our shores, no????? And yes, it might very well be an act of war to cross that line!!

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Thing is, around the Caribbean it's somewhat open game for all the countries there.

[LookAtIt]

I don't care! I have to vote for McCain.

The man is clearly a fellow zombie!











Brains

[PrBlahBlahtson]

Originally Posted by genderhazard

Obama's comment was asinine. Face it if those same words came out of Bush's mouth you would be the first to say what a moron he is.

Part of the reason he made the statement is that off-shore drilling could reach full capacity of 200,000 barrels per day (abbreviated as bbl for some reason) by 2030. Oil consumption in the United States of America was measured at 20,730,000 barrels per day by The CIA Factbook as of 6/14/07 and posted by NationMaster.

So in twenty years we could increase our oil supply by almost 1% of the demand.

When you look at the actual numbers, his statement makes sense. But you're correct, without those numbers it just seems stupid.

[shadowfox586]

Originally Posted by ElastiGirl

I believe there is limit to how close another country can come to our shores, no????? And yes, it might very well be an act of war to cross that line!!

I believe 2 miles off shore is considered part of the country. But we wouldnt just stat drilling randomly; we would get permission first. Most other countries with the capability to drill off shore are doing so.

Originally Posted by resiz3d

Dont forget.. if we start drilling more the American people don't get the oil. Exxon and other oil companies get it. They can take that oil and sell it to China or Europe or whoever's willing to pay more for it.

Yes, but if you want to lower gas prices you have to increase supply. Even if its sold to other countries (it will be sold where its cheapest or more efficient to ship) the overall supply goes up and price goes down, assuming demand does not go up at the same rate.

I was also going to make the Stock point, but genderhazard has already done that.

And on one last note, yes i know that the tire thing is not obamas only plan for energy, but he said "Inflating your tires will save you just as much" [as drilling for more oil]. ((I dont remember the exact quote, ill look it up on youtube and edit this post later if im off)). It was pretty asinine to tell us that would save us 'just as much', especially since most people keep their tires inflated. He also suggested tune-ups, but cars are electronic now and dont really need them....

[ElastiGirl]

Just as much depends on that yucky math thing!!!


tm;dr

(too mathy;didn't read - hahaha!)

[Hellstromm, Son of Satan]

SCREW the energy plan, I'm voting Obama just to end the goddamn Iraq War once and for all.

[ElastiGirl]

WHAT!!??!?!

Don't you want the Bush/McCain plan for unending Oil wars forever!?!?!?! Paid for by your great grandkids work in slave camps?!

How unpatriotic!!!

[genderhazard]

Originally Posted by Hellstromm, Son of Satan

SCREW the energy plan, I'm voting Obama just to end the goddamn Iraq War once and for all.

Hate to disappoint.

He won't pull us out either.

[shadowfox586]

Originally Posted by Hellstromm, Son of Satan

SCREW the energy plan, I'm voting Obama just to end the goddamn Iraq War once and for all.

Really? the guy who refuses to listen to any military advisors is going to end the war better than someone who does? The war needs to end, but you cant just up and leave when you feel it should end... Ask any soldier whos been there. I have talked to several both here and there, they all know that
1. we need to let the people there establish some order before we tell them 'were not going to protect you from the chaos we threw you into by overthrowing your government. Bye now!"
2. you cant just up and leave anyway, withdrawal takes time. Even Obama knows this, and my belief is that he has only given such fast withdrawal dates in order to gain popularity for the election.

I have many friends and a few relatives fighting overseas, and yes i wish we had not gone into Iraq, i was never for the war. However, now that we are there and we overthrew the existing government we owe it to those people to set things up a bit before we leave. Its selfish to not care what happens because of what we did and just try to have our troops brought home regaurdles of what it means to thier nation. Not to mention, worse case senario, if Al-Q or HaMas take control of Iraq after we leave we will have to invade AGAIN because unlike Hussain they will stock up on arms to attack thier enemies, which include us and our allies.

I want all of our troops home and safe, but we have to do it the right way or it will simply lead to more trouble and death down the line.

[ElastiGirl]

HAHA!!! Listen to military advisers???? Like Dubya, who never did??? And McCain loves him some Dubya!!!! Come on!!! Obama will not only listen to military advisers but he will actually understand what they say!!

Either candidate will start a withdrawal to a point!! But McCains loves hims some 100 years war, and would probably "withdraw" to his new Iraq war!!!

UGH!!!

On another note, MickySame now LOVES him some tire inflation!!!

McCain: "I don't disagree" with Obama on inflating tires

[resiz3d]

Iraq Schmiraq, let's stay out of Iran!

[ElastiGirl]

Whatcha think of this, landlubbers???

OOPs, thought I was Long John for a second!!!

Says it all, right???