Cautionary message about Amazon Eve

[LOD]

Does anybody else realize that there's enough in this thread for Amazon Eve to file civil claims against the OP for Libel, Defamation of Character, Loss of Income, and Loss of future incom?

[Sephie]

Rachael, Qzarr, Will you two stop. I am the resident troll.

I repeat: Looks like a Giant girl, thinks like a giant girl, talks like a giant girl, acts like a giant girl, it is a duck.

[qzar9999]

LOD: While I don't think that'll happen, it would be amusing, in a karmic kind of way. And you may be right, she could have a case.

HOB: I've actually about given up on replying to anything she says. But I don't appreciate being called a troll and a homophobe by someone who apparently doesn't really understand the definition of either word. On the other hand I think she has me on her ignore list, so...

[Rachel Bronwyn]

"I have gay friends" is my favourite excuse used by homophobes. Sarah Palin used it. Funny we were never able to locate a gay friend of hers. Anyhoo, I struggle to believe anyone who vocalises that civil society is founded on heterosexual family values, denounces gay marriage and attends pray-the-gay-away events has any gay friends.

Then there's the classic, Keith Bardwell, who denied the an interracial couple a marriage license. I quote:

I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way

It's best not to follow up a denial of racism with it's definition.

I applaud Bardwell for going the extra mile though and ALLOWING THEM TO USE HIS BATHROOM!

I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else.

His bathroom! If that isn't a fool-proof test of someone's tolerance, I don't know what is!

"I have <insert minority> friends" is just a canned response used by intolerant people who want to make their discrimination seem benign. It's not proof of anything. Proof of acceptance is not judging people and deeming who they are a choice.

Rachael, Qzarr, Will you two stop. I am the resident troll.

You'll note I assessed the situation and disengaged. My current post is in response to Jecilyn. I deserve a pat on the back.

Besides, there's another man in my life I like to waste copious amounts of time on. His name's Mario. He's got a brother. Sometimes they both come over to play.

[LOD]

Originally Posted by Rachel Bronwyn

Besides, there's another man in my life I like to waste copious amounts of time on. His name's Mario. He's got a brother. Sometimes they both come over to play.

Do they take magic mushrooms and dive through sewer pipes XD

[mercury01]

Originally Posted by liveordie83

Do they take magic mushrooms and dive through sewer pipes XD

kinky.

[qzar9999]

Originally Posted by Jecilyn

_Lifestyle choices_? Please don't tell me you believe that being gay is a lifestyle choice?

Not the best "choice" of words....not at all

I would assume you mean "I've got many friends, some of whom happened to be gay...and that fact has never influenced my friendship with them. It is simply a non-issue"

(I could go off the deep end here, but I'm going to try and give you the benefit of the doubt that you chose your words poorly)

Ok, yes, my apologies. I wasn't sure of the proper way to say it. Yes, the fact never came up. If they're gay, that's their thing, it's really not any of my business, nor is it my place (or anyone else's) to criticize them or tell them they're "wrong" for it. Their life is theirs to live. By the way, I appreciate you giving me the benefit of the doubt--as that actually IS what I meant--instead of attacking me, deriding my intelligence and calling me a troll. Speaking of which...

Originally Posted by Rachel Bronwyn

"I have gay friends" is my favourite excuse used by homophobes. Sarah Palin used it. Funny we were never able to locate a gay friend of hers. Anyhoo, I struggle to believe anyone who vocalises that civil society is founded on heterosexual family values, denounces gay marriage and attends pray-the-gay-away events has any gay friends.

Yes, please let me name ANY of my RL friends on a fetish board. Especially in response to someone who ignores almost everything I say to them unless they can use it against me. I know I've had gay friends, and I know I didn't judge them for it--I don't have to prove it to you. EDIT: It occurs to me on re-reading your post that you may have still been talking about Palin, and not me. It reads a bit confusingly, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt as well and assume you were not putting words in my mouth for a second time.

Originally Posted by Rachel Bronwyn

You'll note I assessed the situation and disengaged. My current post is in response to Jecilyn. I deserve a pat on the back.

Let me get this straight: you'd like a pat on the back for tossing groundless insults at me, judging me when you don't know me, refusing to respond to any of my other statements, and then running away and pretending you're taking the high road? Clearly that's a well-deserved reward.

Originally Posted by Rachel Bronwyn

Besides, there's another man in my life I like to waste copious amounts of time on. His name's Mario. He's got a brother. Sometimes they both come over to play.

Wow. I actually found something I have in common with you. Of course the Mario games do have near-universal appeal, and that's an issue that's got nothing to do with religion, politics, ideals, or the other 7 million things you and I disagree on.

I really wonder why I bother doing this. I get enough headaches from arguing with my wife, and I don't disagree with her on nearly as many things as I do with you. Not to mention she hasn't arbitrarily decided that she's smarter than me and anything I say isn't worth the effort it took to say it.

[Clickme]

I was jsut thinking about that! XD BUt hey, they say life imitates art lol

[OhZone]

OhMY! What a thread!

In the end, there just is no process with EVE anyways! So there!

BTW: I am so glad I am not a troll! OHYEAH!

[Sour Oblivion]

THE FOLLOWING IS MY OPINION AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE PRESENTED AS INCONTROVERTIBLE FACT.

I was just trying to warn people about what I considered a deceptive practice. I have nothing against transgendered people. But I do have something against any person who deceives others for fame and profit. So I was trying to do a public service here by letting others know about this. And for that, I've been called a bigot and worse. The old saying rings true once again: No good deed ever goes unpunished.

Anyway, here are a few other items I can throw your way. And if this doesn't convince you that I'm not making this up, then I don't know what will. I don't know why that second link I posted vanished, but I can at least provide the picture from it. A simple Yahoo image search reveals this headshot, and it also reveals that the headshot comes from the page I tried to link to before. http://images.search.yahoo.com/image...sigb=12gm5cm0u

Next, and perhaps more convincingly, we have a person by the name of Erika Ervin attending a charity event. Now this is where you all have to put two and two together. Erika Ervin is the writer of the first article who openly admits in said article to being transgendered. In the two charity event pictures I'm posting, you see in attendance an obviously towering Erika Ervin who looks very much like both the Erika Ervin in the first article and Amazon Eve.

http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2009/10...ryraffleME.jpg

http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2009/10...ikaErvinME.jpg

Scrolling down on the right side of this page, you'll see confirmation that these pictures are of Erika Ervin. http://www.prweb.com/releases/2009/10/prweb2969744.htm

And no, I don't enjoy using a charity news story to prove this kind of point, but I've been put on the defensive and this is all I have left to offer.

And hey, Erika/Eve obviously has some very good qualities about him/her: being an advocate for transgendered people, involvement with charity... but deceiving others for profit and fame unfortunately appears to be a black mark on his/her record.

By the way, consider that Ervin may have fabricated a younger-than-actual age just for his/her character "Amazon Eve". Also, keep in mind that generously applied make-up and intense photoshopping can do wonders when it comes to creating a more youthful appearance. I'm referring here to the Zoo photos.

I really don't want to be enemies with anybody here, nor with Erika Ervin/Amazon Eve for that matter. I just want people to be honest. And if that's considered a bad thing, then this world is even worse off than I thought it was.

Lorekeep, feel free to delete this thread at your discretion. It's obviously gotten way out of hand. I leave it up to you.

[Jecilyn]

Originally Posted by Sour Oblivion

I really don't want to be enemies with anybody here, nor with Erika Ervin/Amazon Eve for that matter. I just want people to be honest.

Here's the thing I'm having issue with. To me, this has gone past the whole "Is it Erika or not?" question this thread has raised.

You continue to use ambiguous/deliberately obtuse pronouns such as him/her in several places throughout your defensive "proving" of your point...all the while _Knowing_ full well the effect this will have on certain people.

It's like you're taunting some of the other readers just for the damn lulz. Honestly, it's tiring and you're just further degrading any point you might have had in doing so....We get it, you have an opinion on transgender people and what "sex" they are in your mind.


Just as aside---
....IMO <---- you may wish to utilise this same acronym when making claims about Erika....You are bandying your belief around as fact...rather than as your opinion. As someone pointed out, you need to careful how you make such claims...because in a litigious society (such as exists in the US) if you are wrong in your assumption, you could be looking at a serious court case just as Liveordie suggested above.

[Sour Oblivion]

THE FOLLOWING IS MY OPINION AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE PRESENTED AS INCONTROVERTIBLE FACT.

I appreciate your insight on this, Jecilyn. And I can assure you that I'm not laughing about any of this. I used "him/her" and "he/she" as a way of being gender neutral since referring to this person simply as "he" and "him" caused such an uproar. But it would appear that trying to refer to this person in a gender neutral way isn't okay either.

Anyway, I give up on this. The small point I was trying to make in the beginning about deception is definitely not worth the nightmare this thread has become. Practically everything I say is being construed as something offensive, bigoted, etc., even though I point out over and over that I have nothing against transgendered people and that my beef is with people who deceive others for personal gain.