Some BE stories and comics

[Metatron]

Originally Posted by Katt

It's ok to pirate peoples' work as long as they aren't part of the process community? Is that the point you're trying to make?

In the words of Ed McMahon
"You are correct, sir."

Fine examples
http://www.process-productions.com/f...ead.php?t=1668
http://www.process-productions.com/f...ad.php?t=25378
http://www.process-productions.com/f...ad.php?t=24178
http://www.process-productions.com/f...ad.php?t=23343

No in all seriousness I don't care. If its pirated then its pirated. I can easily name over 6 places I can get material from the BA story section is for free. I am not saying I go to these places for that, but the fact remains that there are a so many other places that host it there is no point to complain that one location feels that it wants to not host it.

[PyroWildcat]

Originally Posted by Katt

Do you feel cool when you browse all these movie, tv show, anime clips?

The hypocrisy here is just... outstanding. It's ok to pirate peoples' work as long as they aren't part of the process community? Is that the point you're trying to make?

Okay, your comparison is stupid, and I'll tell you why:

The BE from these movies, tv shows, and anime clips usually take up only a few seconds of the entire work, maybe a minute or two at most. For the most part, only clips of the BE scenes themselves are really posted here, so if we're interested in the movies, tv shows, etc. themselves, we'd still have to find the full version legitimately. Honestly, why buy an entire movie that has only a single scene we have any interest in? The thing is, mainstream movies and so on that just happen to have a BE scene or two will have audiences outside of the BE community who will buy the movie or whatever on its own merits, rather than a single scene.

Process Community material, on the other hand, is meant entirely for BE. It is highly unlikely that anyone else other than us will ever have any interest in buying them, so if we pirate those, there will be absolutely no money to be made off of them. No business is made, the business goes down, and BE content goes bye-bye.

Remember Mood Boobs? Unlike the movies whose clips are posted here, there was no other audience for it; any money that was to be made off it was to come from us. So many people pirated it that its pretty much a given that no BE-centric movie will ever be made again. So to some of us, its a big deal.

[Katt]

Originally Posted by PyroWildcat

So to some of us, its a big deal.

I don't see how my comparison was stupid when you pretty much just clarified my point... You're essentially saying its ok to pirate stuff not 'aimed' at this community because "they're" making money from the product anyways.

But when someone makes a comic/movie thats "about BE" (and the other fetishes) its a big 'no-no'? You can't have your pie and eat it too...

PS. Might I also add that this was content from the BESC... a site notorious for fucking over its contributors? I had to search and pirate the comic my friend was supposed to get PAID for just so he could view it.

[Metatron]

Originally Posted by PyroWildcat

Okay, your comparison is stupid, and I'll tell you why:

The BE from these movies, tv shows, and anime clips usually take up only a few seconds of the entire work, maybe a minute or two at most. For the most part, only clips of the BE scenes themselves are really posted here, so if we're interested in the movies, tv shows, etc. themselves, we'd still have to find the full version legitimately. Honestly, why buy an entire movie that has only a single scene we have any interest in? The thing is, mainstream movies and so on that just happen to have a BE scene or two will have audiences outside of the BE community who will buy the movie or whatever on its own merits, rather than a single scene.

Process Community material, on the other hand, is meant entirely for BE. It is highly unlikely that anyone else other than us will ever have any interest in buying them, so if we pirate those, , the business goes down, and BE content goes bye-bye.

While I complement you for your fair understanding of piracy laws.
Here is the law in a nut shell.
If you post any material that it not your own it has to be less than 5 minutes otherwise it is piracy.
If you are playing material that you took from a show it has to be airing with in a week of the broadcast and the source must be cited and dated otherwise it is piracy.

And while as you say "there will be absolutely no money to be made off of them. No business is made" that is true, however. Since this is a private community and those pdfs would "only be here" as you say no one is taking them and putting them of the BEA in their file section so the bea can profit off of them no, no no that would be illegal as you put it.

Again, I am neither for nor against I am just simply presenting facts.

[Blake Isaac Gordon]

Am I missing some of the logic...

Because I am a registered member of this forum AND this forum has 'filched' Manga content these dual events make me a trifling hyp?o?crite?

Meh- I guess that would have solid merit if I bothered to read the Mangas. Most of the time the Process Forum is a place for links to sites that host the stuff (as well as malicious code).

For the 7 dollar excuse... I'm going to call shenanigans on that one UNLESS the person has a physical limitation (such as being confined to a wheel chair if that is the case I will apologize immediately) you can get a job bagging groceries on the weekend. Plus the fact that you are at college, a giant cornucopia of tender vittles, you should be out being social and not spending time chasing free INTERNET porn.

I have to agree with PyroWildcat, completely. I too have heard that the sales of ModBoobs only netted the cost of making the film (very little profit if any). If those who 'illegally downloaded' the film bought it instead maybe we'd be hearing about a sequel.

All I can say to those who make justifications for getting the 'intellectual property' for free- all that needs to happen is for those people to spend 50+ hours on a personal project which they want to be compensated on. Its not that you want to make millions, but a $150 to 500 profit would be a nice. Then when they hear some INTERNET-Punk go "I have no money so I want it fo free," nonsense they can follow up on this post and call...

[Blake Isaac Gordon]

Dang-it! I draft up my comment and two more post before me.

I still agree with Mr. Pyro Wild Cat (except for the use of the adjective stupid- but that's just me)

Still do not use reasoning that the BESC treats content creators like crap to swipe their stuff. Yes the system is broken, yes we all want to get away from the subscription system.... (bla-bla-blabityy-bla)

But until the New Great thing arrives try and show some respect to at least some restraint.

[Katt]

Originally Posted by Blake Isaac Gordon

Dang-it! I draft up my comment and two more post before me.

I still agree with Mr. Pyro Wild Cat (except for the use of the adjective stupid- but that's just me)

Still do not use reasoning that the BESC treats content creators like crap to swipe their stuff. Yes the system is broken, yes we all want to get away from the subscription system.... (bla-bla-blabityy-bla)

But until the New Great thing arrives try and show some respect to at least some restraint.

So basically we should bend over and get screwed over by them constantly (in the name of 'respect') instead of giving them a taste of their own medicine (taking their profits which they took from our pockets)?

Also back to pyrowildcat's argument about how its ok to steal stuff not 'aimed' at us. By that logic, I could pirate whatever I want and just say some BS excuse like "I only pirated it so I can see this one 10 second scene...", "I only pirated it so I can play this one level", and etc.

To be honest, I'm with Metatron. I don't care whether someone pirates or not... I'm just tired of all these white knights downloading torrents in the background.

[Clickme]

Ok, the only thing I'm gonna comment on is the "we don't have money, so we pirate" thing. If you don't have money? TOUGH SHIT! If you don't have the cash, that's your problem. Go and steal a sweater from Sears and see how many cops buy your "But I don't have the money for it, so I'm entitled to steal it" excuse.

[ZanbonSen]

The only thing I've learned is that it's ok to pirate thousands of Japanese Doshinjo and Art Packs, but if it's a American Comic or Art Pack, it's a no-no.

[Blake Isaac Gordon]

Originally Posted by Clickme

If you don't have money? TOUGH SHIT! If you don't have the cash, that's your problem.

HA! I love it that's so going into my sig... Many thanks.


AS for the whole BESC thing... I'm not a fan nor will I ever be. Its my issue but guess what, if I want content I go somewhere else. I don't justify bad behavior with, "So basically we should bend over and get screwed over by them constantly (in the name of 'respect') instead of giving them a taste of their own medicine (taking their profits which they took from our pockets)?"

And one more thing, has anyone had any issues with PortalComic? The BESC's buisness plan is a slovenly bowel of spaghetti, but Portal's work is top notch- how is it possible to swipe from the BESC and NOT hurt Portal?

[Metatron]

Originally Posted by Blake Isaac Gordon

And one more thing, has anyone had any issues with PortalComic? The BESC's buisness plan is a slovenly bowel of spaghetti, but Portal's work is top notch- how is it possible to swipe from the BESC and NOT hurt Portal?

I am not one for vengeance unless it's really called for but someone innocently finding a sharefile of work should not be scolded for lack of knowledge. If anything our OP should be given some metal or kudos for finding such piracy so it can be removed.


I think it is quite simple. Artists are paid on commission. x number of page drawings = x dollars. Logically if we pirate then BEAC has to get more stories to keep up with the dissemination of their works. I know its stupid but eh cant think if any other way

[catfish27]

Originally Posted by Metatron

I think it is quite simple. Artists are paid on commission. x number of page drawings = x dollars. Logically if we pirate then BEAC has to get more stories to keep up with the dissemination of their works. I know its stupid but eh cant think if any other way

"Logically"?!

If enough people figure "eh, why pay for the BESC when their content is going to be uploaded somewhere every couple of months," then they're not going to have enough revenue coming in to pay artists and writers to create new stories. And that doesn't have anything to do with how artists get paid.