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Unread 02-07-2013   #13
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Re: Climate Change (werewolf story)

Before I say this, I just want you to know it's not about what you said.

I've decided that this is the last piece I'm going to write. I just don't feel I'm good enough to really contribute anything to the community. I feel like it would be a waste of my time to attempt to write another story. I concerned myself too much with getting praise and shown myself that I couldn't handle even the idea that someone didn't like one of my stories. I'm too thin skinned to put my work out there, which is why I was afraid to do it all these years to begin with. I've seen too many bad writers remain bad over the years to think there's any chance I could actually improve and become a good writer. So with all those things in mind, I'm just going to call it quits. It's not about anything anyone else said or did. This is just me recognizing my own ineptitude.
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Is waitressed a real word? Can't easily check on this phone w/out losing my comments.

Some minor typographical/grammatical errors. Will cover them when I get on a real computer.

I am left wanting more of a description of the storm, but I find rain storms erotic so you probably should ignore that.

Better flow than the first draft of the last story.

I like your writing style don't quit. You have a lot of potential, and more than a little skill already. Interacting with you in general has lead me to assume you are intelligent, and capable of learning. The differences between this and your last story is proof of your ability to improve
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Hey tfwriter, don't quit just cause some people said your writing skills need improvement. Just do what you do and if they don't want to read your work, they don't have to. If I had quit when someone told me my manips sucked, I would have never improved. Don't be quick to throw in the towel.
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Dawww TF-Viewer san, don't go quitting so soooooon! I mean look how many stories I've put up on here. A couple of them didn't get a single comment. My first story here was The Moon Coin, and it got a lot of praise and a lot of critique, but I kept going and it turned into one hell of a long story. I've still going to finish that monster, but I couldn't have done it without the comments and ideas I got from here. So I would suggest you write some more, refine a little here and there, and then post if you feel your work is lacking somewhere. Remember that you'll never please everybody here with just one or two stories, no matter how well you write! This stuff is no different than artwork, everybody has a style, and if people just don't like your style, they just won't like your style.

If you want another place to place some of your stories, I signed up here: http://www.sofurry.com/index.php. It's just a more transformation oriented place so everybody there loves just about anything with some sort of transformation in it, so you might get some ideas there as well, if you're interested. Take care! <3!
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Hey tfwriter, don't quit just cause some people said your writing skills need improvement. Just do what you do and if they don't want to read your work, they don't have to. If I had quit when someone told me my manips sucked, I would have never improved. Don't be quick to throw in the towel.
Even the best writer has room for improvement. I am sorry if I often forget to praise the aspects of works I like.
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Before I say this, I just want you to know it's not about what you said.

I've decided that this is the last piece I'm going to write. I just don't feel I'm good enough to really contribute anything to the community. I feel like it would be a waste of my time to attempt to write another story. I concerned myself too much with getting praise and shown myself that I couldn't handle even the idea that someone didn't like one of my stories. I'm too thin skinned to put my work out there, which is why I was afraid to do it all these years to begin with. I've seen too many bad writers remain bad over the years to think there's any chance I could actually improve and become a good writer. So with all those things in mind, I'm just going to call it quits. It's not about anything anyone else said or did. This is just me recognizing my own ineptitude.
This here pretty much depends of what you want to do with your writing. If you are writing for the sake of writing and only looking for praise to do something meaningful and know you did something meaningful then I say you should never stop writing and posting what you write no matter how people react to your stories. Now if you want to grow out of the niche and become a professional writer well, get ready for a rough beatdown because no one will hold your hand in that regard and putting a price on writing is so hard that I can't find a propper adjective to describe it, but that as well isn't reason for anyone to give up. Writing is pretty much like a muscle that you have to flex every day to keep exercised, think of it that way, no one needs to see you working out but when you want to show it you want to make sure that everyone will stare and go "damn, dat guy is tough".
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Re: Climate Change (werewolf story)

Thanks for the words of encouragement, everyone. That you guys don't want me to quit really means a lot. I'd been thinking it over all day, and I guess it was pretty silly to get so down so quick, over nothing really. So I won't quit. I'll keep writing and sharing what I write; and I'll try to be more positive, and not jump to conclusions (or snowball into depression...).

I still had a lot of stories I wanted to write anyway, it would have been a shame to never start those.

So thanks again.

edit: so as not to double post. I wanted to address Sephie's message now that I'm in a better mood.

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Is waitressed a real word? Can't easily check on this phone w/out losing my comments.

Some minor typographical/grammatical errors. Will cover them when I get on a real computer.

I am left wanting more of a description of the storm, but I find rain storms erotic so you probably should ignore that.

Better flow than the first draft of the last story.

I like your writing style don't quit. You have a lot of potential, and more than a little skill already. Interacting with you in general has lead me to assume you are intelligent, and capable of learning. The differences between this and your last story is proof of your ability to improve
Apparently "waitressed" is a real word according to a few sources. Spell check disagrees but it's not the boss of me.
v. simple past tense and past participle of waitress.

Another reason to not trust spell check, you found typos and spell check itself didn't. Though it did help with punctuation this time. I didn't have a spell check function in the program I wrote my previous stories in.

I'm glad you felt it flowed better than the last story, and I'm surprised it would since it was so spur of the moment. I basically poured it out of my head onto the keyboard. Maybe that's a better way to do it... hmm.. though time consuming.

I really am glad you liked it, and thanks for the kind words, it really does my mood wonders to hear you think I've improved already since the last story.

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Re: Climate Change (werewolf story)

First thing, YAY!
Now, disable the freaking auto-correction off of any writing software you use. You can leave warnings on and you may write some real messes but believe me, you'll improve greatly by not having a machine say what you should do.

Another thing, stories that you come with suddenly and you simply can't figure out why you are writing or what came over you but you are simply doing it, those stories are THE BEST you can EVER do, so don't shy away from them EVER! When inspiration hits you, may be in the middle of the night or while you are doing something others aren't advised to see just take whatever you can use and write the idea down, freaking nail that inspiration outbreak and you'll see, you'll be wielding that critter bazooka again faster than you can say "you are mean"!
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First thing, YAY!
Now, disable the freaking auto-correction off of any writing software you use. You can leave warnings on and you may write some real messes but believe me, you'll improve greatly by not having a machine say what you should do.

Well it doesn't automatically correct everything. It mostly highlights the parts I should double check and offers a suggestion. It let me know where I could use a semicolon properly, so I did (though possibly ironically I won't be using any of them correctly in this very post). It would point out sentence fragments that I later went back and added to, or subtracted if they weren't really helping. The only thing it automatically fixed was my constant misspelling of the word "restaurant" (which I misspelled here too before Firefox underlined the mistake). I keep leaving out the "a" before the "u". stupid letter A.
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First thing, YAY!
Now, disable the freaking auto-correction off of any writing software you use. You can leave warnings on and you may write some real messes but believe me, you'll improve greatly by not having a machine say what you should do.
This is horrible advice.

If you're not willing to read what you wrote for errors, then why should anyone else read it for any reason?
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This is horrible advice.

If you're not willing to read what you wrote for errors, then why should anyone else read it for any reason?
No, actually, it's not.

He never said don't proof-read your work. He's making the case that one should simply write and not worry about the countless mechanical errors that might be made in the process. Many authors get overwhelmed by the pressure, and stories that might have flowed freely end up getting hung up and halted by incessant nitpicking.

After the story is complete, then you may or may not go back and edit it. Or leave it as is if you're happy with it (even with a few mechanical flaws).

Writing is an art. If you don't like someone's art, don't look at it.

Similarly, don't call someone else's advice "horrible" unless you plan to contribute some of your own.

Now, my own advice to TF-Viewer is a bit of an echo of hexen's: Just write.

Earlier you mentioned that you honestly just wrote the story to have a woman in wet clothes undergoing a transformation. That's fantastic! Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Most of my own stories are just that: Transformation candy. Does that make me any less of a writer? Nope, and the same goes for you.

You don't have to write the best, most mechanically prestine stories with the most elaborate and well-conceived plot. You don't have to please the grammar police or story-snobs. As long as you enjoyed writing the story, then great. If a few others also enjoyed it, even better.

Write what you want, when you want, how ever you choose.

You can bet, at the very least, that I'll be reading and enjoying.
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After the story is complete, then you may or may not go back and edit it. Or leave it as is if you're happy with it (even with a few mechanical flaws).
Or you could just you know, ask someone to be your editor. But even then, proofreading your own work is crucial if you want to gain more credit as an aspiring writer. Too many grammatical errors can be a huge turn off if the plot itself has potential. I'm sure you know already TF-Viewer.
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