Man of Steel Review, Spoiler Free

Keile · 06-21-2013

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Originally Posted by JBird

The more people make the comparison to Dragonball Z, the less of a Superman movie Man of Steel becomes. Even that's an insult to DBZ, since the majority of the fights take place away from populated areas. And if Superman is such an inexperienced fighter compared to Zod, then how is he still a match for him, let alone to two of his flunkies? Maybe he learned how to fight from Jor-El.exe. I mean, how else does Jor-El know how to fight if he was bred to be a scientist? And how does he and Lara know how to fuck in order to have the first naturally born child in over a thousand years?

And there are much, MUCH better Superman alternatives than this movie. Hell, Invincible, as I mentioned before, is a better Superman, and that books chalked full of over-the-top violence on a city-wide scale. The only reason I have no problem with that (although, some of the gory scenes make me squeamish) is that book's world is set up that way. Man of Steel's world makes me think it would have been a better idea if Kal-El never came to Earth.

If you ask me, Bizarro should be in the next movie. He would be the anti-Superman: witty, heroic and colorful.

Do you really think Zod would have let him take them to an unpopulated area? And Superman stands a match against Zod and his flunkies because A) he refuses to give up and B) He has been on Earth FAR LONGER and his powers are more developed. This is also why Superman is able to defeat Zod in the way he does (considering one of their powers is Invulnerability), his powers were not as developed thus he was able to whittle him down to the point where he was vulnerable easier. Superman isn't invincible...his invulnerability has limits if you beat on him long enough eventually he will become vulnerable, they did this to him quite a while ago since he was found to be just too damn powerful.

No reason that Zod wouldn't run on the same logic and he was on Earth for a far less amount of time, and therefore wouldn't have absorbed as much of the solar radiation, so his invulnerability/stamina would be far reduced compared to Supermans.

I don't think this is a good movie per-say, but it's not quite as bad as people are making it out to be.

JBird · 06-21-2013

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Originally Posted by Keile

Do you really think Zod would have let him take them to an unpopulated area? And Superman stands a match against Zod and his flunkies because A) he refuses to give up and B) He has been on Earth FAR LONGER and his powers are more developed. This is also why Superman is able to defeat Zod in the way he does (considering one of their powers is Invulnerability), his powers were not as developed thus he was able to whittle him down to the point where he was vulnerable easier. Superman isn't invincible...his invulnerability has limits if you beat on him long enough eventually he will become vulnerable, they did this to him quite a while ago since he was found to be just too damn powerful.

No reason that Zod wouldn't run on the same logic and he was on Earth for a far less amount of time, and therefore wouldn't have absorbed as much of the solar radiation, so his invulnerability/stamina would be far reduced compared to Supermans.

I don't think this is a good movie per-say, but it's not quite as bad as people are making it out to be.

I was under the impression that the Kryptonians' armored suits protected them from the Earth's environment, including the Sun's radiation. But Zod, Faora and Nam-Ek (the really, really large guy) showed no signs of having trouble adapting to their powers within minutes of walking about on Earth. Sure, they were overloaded by their super-senses, but, again, Zod shook that off because the script said so.

And I do believe Superman would have led them away from Smallville and Metropolis, BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE THEY WERE AFTER! Blast 'em with some heat vision to lure them away. But no, we have to see shit blow up because they had $225 million to spend. And, as I keep mentioning, Superman contributes to the destruction, and clearly gives no fucks.

And Kryptonian air is the kryptonite replacement? Really? Air? And, he couldn't hold his breath to take out the doomsday machine?

Just like Nolan's Batman, this Superman isn't not all bright and charges head-first into an ass-whoopin'.

Keile · 06-21-2013

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Originally Posted by JBird

I was under the impression that the Kryptonians' armored suits protected them from the Earth's environment, including the Sun's radiation. But Zod, Faora and Nam-Ek (the really, really large guy) showed no signs of having trouble adapting to their powers within minutes of walking about on Earth. Sure, they were overloaded by their super-senses, but, again, Zod shook that off because the script said so.

And I do believe Superman would have led them away from Smallville and Metropolis, BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE THEY WERE AFTER! Blast 'em with some heat vision to lure them away. But no, we have to see shit blow up because they had $225 million to spend. And, as I keep mentioning, Superman contributes to the destruction, and clearly gives no fucks.

And Kryptonian air is the kryptonite replacement? Really? Air? And, he couldn't hold his breath to take out the doomsday machine?

Just like Nolan's Batman, this Superman isn't not all bright and charges head-first into an ass-whoopin'.

They not once said the suits protected against the radiation, only the air. They shook off the issues with the powers because they were bred to be warriors, to adapt quickly to their situation. They KNEW they were going to have the strength from the start as Jor-El made clear at the beginning of the movie (which...this is something I disagree with, how the hell would he have known that yellow star = SUPER POWERS!)

And I know who Nam is....Kinda wished he had a larger role, always liked that big mute.

As for the destruction: What's one city when the entire world is at stake? Gotta look at the larger picture.

JBird · 06-21-2013

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Originally Posted by Keile

They not once said the suits protected against the radiation, only the air. They shook off the issues with the powers because they were bred to be warriors, to adapt quickly to their situation. They KNEW they were going to have the strength from the start as Jor-El made clear at the beginning of the movie (which...this is something I disagree with, how the hell would he have known that yellow star = SUPER POWERS!)

And I know who Nam is....Kinda wished he had a larger role, always liked that big mute.

As for the destruction: What's one city when the entire world is at stake? Gotta look at the larger picture.

Like I said, I was under the impression that their suits protected them against Earth's environment and Sun. I don't know about you, but Zod and friends gave off a Kryptonion elitist vibe with their presence. And they were nowhere around Jor-El when he was explaining how the sun grants super-powers, so they would have never known this.

So, Superman should not give a fuck about avoiding a death-toll, is what you're saying? The man with the strength, speed and courage to do what he believes is right should let a few hundred thousand people die just to save one whole world? I call that grade-A bullshit.

Keile · 06-21-2013

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Originally Posted by JBird

I can answer this question, actually:

$160 Billion damage done to city in Avengers. (source: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/05/...ge-160-billion)

$700 Billion damage in physical property in Man of Steel (source: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/...struction-cost)

Supes is looking out for the economy...have any clue how hard the Construction career is right now? He is giving them work! HE IS HELPING 'MURICA!