Growth and Giantess Clips

[magnus knight]

magnus knight, qzar9999, ZZZ, Beetlebomb, DragonMasterX are just a few I can think of that have some very good works here on the forums, and I highly suggest a look at MG-SG which has a lot of compiled work from a ton of other authors and categories.

I'm honored to be mentioned in such company. Thanks. You can find all my growth stories on my deviant art page http://mzxknight.deviantart.com/ , and I know ZZZ has one as well . Really all the guys suggested above have some great stories. Happy reading.

[Mr Wayne]

GiantGirl,

As I explained to another producer on this Forum, Miss Missa, my approach would be more of the concept aspects first. Allow me to explain.

First off, female size growth is impossible despite satirical imaginations of many around here. Accepting that fact might make the task at hand less daunting. Since my staple of live action growth process has long been Attack of the 50ft Woman '93, another helpful point is to understand what is portrayed in a good process video.

In that scene, not every stitch of threads tearing, not every article of clothing is shown to be outgrown. So, focus on the specific moments we typically like (i.e. shoe busting, shirt buttons popping, bra strap snapping) and try your best to portray these moments as best you can while you progress. Rather than spending hours of time and countless pant legs or shirt sleeves and tearing them for the content of your process footage; mix things up a bit. Though making a video suspenseful as 50Percent suggested is a matter of likeness, it does ratchet up the energy level of such an experience for a more profound ending.

I don't want to speak for anyone, but the way I see it is at least some of us more adamantly use our imaginations. Particularly if live action doesn't measure up. If you can do a process scene good enough, the imaginations can take care of the rest. Case in point, utilizing good sound effects to sell where the footage might be lacking realism.

My central point to Miss Missa was to use convincing and lively sound effects. One of my favorites was a pronounced heart beat sound to precede the initial growth footage. Try using this idea to clue us in that whatever sets off the growth, once you hear the heart beat then buckle your seat belts for the ride. Then as things bust apart, perhaps the use of a faster or increasing heart beat sound, again to amp up the suspense factor. In another producer's clips, Veronica Vaughn, just before the end of her growth footage she used a rapid heart beat sound effect that really sold the climax moment.

Also, for the clothes destruction moments that are too hard to do live action and if you learn to do them as CGI, such as a belt breaking, it is also beneficial to use pronounced sound effects for those instances too. Such as the belt idea done on computer, and use a louder more forced snapping sound to sell the moment. Then if you become comfortable doing some of the computer work, and using convincing sound effects, you'll have less to worry about.

I've often pined for someone skilled enough with sound effects and committed to the style of a fem growth process scene of my style, to try and make just a very convincing audio clip. There are those who have tried and maybe did a decent job. But instead to put in more minute details and show what a typical live action scene would, by only sounds. It would work for my imagination. Or maybe I'm just too picky in my Forum-old age (don't even think about a wise crack Qzar9999, fair warning).



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Magnus,

No need to be so humble. Brag a bit, toss back a beer or two in celebration. Lol.

[drake_tf001]

I rarely offer up any opinions unsolicited. But you did ask. And I'm pleased to see another producer interested in catering to our little corner of the web.

I tend to agree with most of what 50percentgrey mentioned. Although, admittedly, that's primarily just a personal preference.

From a purely objective standpoint, one thing that I would suggest that I have very rarely seen any of the more prolific producers is: vary your shot composition. Simply switching to a new shot can really help break up the monotony of a scene. Likewise, mix up long, medium and close-up shots.

Additionally, I'd like to see something other than, 'Woman standing and growing'. How about throwing in an occasional "spurt" that catches our protagonist off guard and drops her to her knees (or perhaps, even on all fours)? How about a scenario that doesn't involve a standard room in an average suburban house? How about something like a HVAC technician working in human-sized air ducts in a chemical factory during a little 'mishap'? And it becomes a race to escape before she's crushed due to her increasing girth?

Granted, that may extend beyond the scope you'd like to work with. But, I thought I'd just throw it out there.

As for examples of good writing, I happened across a snippet of a REALLY old story as I was checking some old drives. I don't know where this came from, or what the name is. It's only one part of a story, but now I remember why I saved a copy—I find the growth sequence in this to be exquisite. The build up, the sense of anticipation, the fact that it's all due to a scientific miscalculation—bravo. Also notice that even in written form, the growth is punctuated in just a few brief intense moments. I'd love to see (and would pay good money) for something short with a couple of quick, compelling growth spurts, rather than a 10-15 minute snooze fest which spends half that time on close-up shots of every layer of clothing slowly ripping in the same way, at the same plodding speed. But again, that's just me.

[TheDisclaimer]

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[Mr Wayne]

Originally Posted by drake_tf001

I rarely offer up any opinions unsolicited. But you did ask. And I'm pleased to see another producer interested in catering to our little corner of the web.

I tend to agree with most of what 50percentgrey mentioned. Although, admittedly, that's primarily just a personal preference.

From a purely objective standpoint, one thing that I would suggest that I have very rarely seen any of the more prolific producers is: vary your shot composition. Simply switching to a new shot can really help break up the monotony of a scene. Likewise, mix up long, medium and close-up shots.

Additionally, I'd like to see something other than, 'Woman standing and growing'. How about throwing in an occasional "spurt" that catches our protagonist off guard and drops her to her knees (or perhaps, even on all fours)? How about a scenario that doesn't involve a standard room in an average suburban house? How about something like a HVAC technician working in human-sized air ducts in a chemical factory during a little 'mishap'? And it becomes a race to escape before she's crushed due to her increasing girth?

Granted, that may extend beyond the scope you'd like to work with. But, I thought I'd just throw it out there.

Drake_tf001,

Bravo indeed. I can't agree more with yet another insightful and helpful perspective. And I would also add to the "spurt" concept to try and incorporate some of the clothing shrinking, or becoming tighter as one of these varied moments. For example, a watch band becoming tighter around the wrist or necklace slowly slinking its way up to the neck of the model as if it's getting smaller.

Just diving right into the serious clothes rippage might satisfy some, but the build up does get a bunch of us even moreso. ^_^

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I must be on a roll tonight with trivial Q&A luck. Remarkably, immediately the name Nela from the vignette you supplied was familiar to me only from a single story, whose author and title eluded me. After a quick check to MG-SG, I confirmed my guess.

Your vignette is from "Giganti" by LBP.
And here is the link to it on the aforementioned website:
http://mg-sg.pbworks.com/w/page/5824...nti%20By%20LBP

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[SDK]

I know this isn't exactly the forum for it, GiantGirl. But, have you considered doing a shrinking process clip?

[Jamball]

Some simple things i think could help sell the illusion of growth, at least in spurts would be (you would need a non-growing other person), simply start the scene with the other person standing on a few books or an applebox or something to make them taller than normal. After the 1st growth spurt, simply have them stand on the ground like normal. Then, after another growth spurt, have the growing person stand on some books.

If you get enough (it could even be stone pavers or something), have a trail that taller person could walk on, so they're not just standing still the whole time.

A nice touch that Mistress Taylor has done in some of her videos, that also really sells the illusion of growth is showing the person actually getting taller, a medium shot where we can see their body inching up. I'm not sure what Taylor used, but it seems like it was more than just the actress standing on her toes, or moving from a crouched position. Some sort of lift.

Also, if you're thinking about using forced perspective, like Gary tries to use, make sure your eyelines match. Don't have one person close to the camera looking back towards another person far away who is looking forward. Yes, 1 person should be close to the camera, the other farther away, but if they're supposed to be looking at each other, then they should both be facing sideways as though they were the same distance from the camera.

But, I totally agree with what many others have said. Study the HBO 50 foot woman growth scene. Notice they used velcro on the clothes to get them to rip. Quick cuts. Different angles. Forced perspective and miniatures (which are quite expensive, so I don't expect those).

I also have a lot of film and VFX experience, so any questions about keying or general visual effects or filmmaking, let me know.

Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_6sn8AeSVw#t=245 is an example of effects I can help with. In this case it's shrunken male and growing male (around the 4:40 mark), but it'll give you an idea. Just let me know if you'd like to know how I did them.

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Jamball

[GiantGirl]

These are such wonderful tips. Thank you all so much for being so helpful and welcoming, and for the pm's too

Shrinking and growing are both on my list to do next. I just did a bit of exploration into unaware vore for my latest clip but it hasn't gotten much interest yet. I think I need to stick to what *I* personally have always found most interesting, as that always seems to translate better on film.

Jamball YES I'd love to know please. I've just purchased a green screen and a video editing program but learning is a very slow process!

I'm away for the weekend now and really wanted to say more about the points raised above, so I shall pop back in probably on Tuesday. Have a good weekend everybody x

[Mr Wayne]

Originally Posted by GiantGirl

Shrinking and growing are both on my list to do next. I just did a bit of exploration into unaware vore for my latest clip but it hasn't gotten much interest yet. I think I need to stick to what *I* personally have always found most interesting, as that always seems to translate better on film.

Hopefully you will venture to attempt growth videos before or only, rather than that other fetish which I shall not name. ;-) I know a certain crafty mod of this particular forum who is probably already plotting my downfall just for making that comment. Lol. (EDITOR'S NOTE: Yes. Yes I am.) Though, I am compelled again to speak out by my opinion and admit that I never really got why fantasizing about being eaten, and then dying, is a pleasurable experience.. But hey, as long as none of it ever happens for real and I become a victim of vore, to each their own. ^_^

I'll be over here in my reasonable, quaint corner of this realm (yes realm) fantasizing about attractive women slowly outgrowing their everyday attire. Each intimate article of clothing slowly shrinking and becoming increasingly tighter, the groaning, straining, and stretching sounds of the clothing crying out in ominous distress before the seams begin to tear, losing jewelry and piercings because they become too small on their bodies, glasses snap off, watchbands snap, sleeves slink up forearms and tighten, popping those shirt buttons, snapping those belt buckles and popping the pants buttons, bra straps snapping and clasps busting, panties shrinking to the point of pleasurable chaos before their own juicy destruction, shoes coming apart from within, heart rate becoming ever more rapid as the anxiety and panic mounts, rings popping off if the women happen to be wearing any, their room tantalizingly becoming smaller and more confining...

You get the idea. B-)

Originally Posted by Jamball

Some simple things i think could help sell the illusion of growth, at least in spurts would be (you would need a non-growing other person)...

Also, if you're thinking about using forced perspective, like Gary tries to use...

I respect what the guy did and for how long, while making strides to improve his effects techniques, but in my humble opinion the acting in many of the clips took nose dives anytime he was on screen. At least try to act natural, and not cheesy-monium. ^_^

Originally Posted by Jamball

But, I totally agree with what many others have said. Study the HBO 50 foot woman growth scene. Notice they used velcro on the clothes to get them to rip. Quick cuts. Different angles. Forced perspective and miniatures (which are quite expensive, so I don't expect those).

Wasn't there a Movie Magic episode or some similar program which detailed how the actual growth sequence was done via special effects? I swear I can remember seeing it on television back then, and how some of the effects were achieved in similar ways to the clothes tearing used in the Incredible Hulk television series in the 80s. I wouldn't mind finding that program episode if it does exist, and I'm not just imagining it. Lol.

Originally Posted by oscarmeyerTINY9999

Just because ol' Batbrain up there thinks it's the devil's own handiwork doesn't mean there aren't a lot of people out there who enjoy it!

You were saying?

[qzar9999]

Wow, I'm flattered at the mention of Wolf Lake here! And in such marvelous company as ZZZ and Magnus, too... Thanks, brad!

Glad to hear you're looking into doing shrinking stuff, too, GG. Just because ol' Batbrain up there thinks it's the devil's own handiwork doesn't mean there aren't a lot of people out there who enjoy it! However, that should probably have its own thread in the Shrinking section, I won't derail the thread talking about it.

Tightening/ripping clothes does go a long way towards selling the growth for me. (As you can probably tell if you take a look at my story that brad mentioned.) I also agree with the person who mentioned that the lifting/rising gimmick that TaylorMade used in a couple of their clips was pretty neat. Shoe busting does have its many fans, so it wouldn't hurt you to include that.

As far as the emotions and reactions--look, don't listen to someone who says "It should always and only be X emotion." That's just dumb. That's their personal preference, but those of us who like a different reaction (or many different reactions) will get bored if you just do always scared, or always violent, or whatever. Personally, my favorite type of growth is where it's combined with arousal--either the woman gets turned on by growing, or getting aroused makes her grow. Bonus if it's both, for the endless cycle effect. But I can go for scared/worried as well.

Experiment, see what works and what doesn't. Have a look at some of Gary Pranzo/Media Impact's stuff, or TaylorMadeClips before they decided we weren't worth it, and see what they did for some ideas. And we'll always be willing to provide feedback when you release new stuff. ^_^

[drake_tf001]

Originally Posted by Mr Wayne

Wasn't there a Movie Magic episode or some similar program which detailed how the actual growth sequence was done via special effects? I swear I can remember seeing it on television back then, and how some of the effects were achieved in similar ways to the clothes tearing used in the Incredible Hulk television series in the 80s. I wouldn't mind finding that program episode if it does exist, and I'm not just imagining it. Lol.

I vaguely recall seeing that episode a long time ago as well.

I believe one of the biggest tricks was using an intense amount of lighting in order to trick the camera into "focusing" on both close foreground objects and far away background objects simultaneously.

In theory, if one were to type

"Movie Magic" HBO attack of the 50 foot woman

into a popular search engine and peruse the third entry, one might find something of relevance in that regard.

In theory. But then again, in theory, communism works.

[Mr Wayne]

Originally Posted by drake_tf001

I vaguely recall seeing that episode a long time ago as well.

I believe one of the biggest tricks was using an intense amount of lighting in order to trick the camera into "focusing" on both close foreground objects and far away background objects simultaneously.

In theory, if one were to type

into a popular search engine and peruse the third entry, one might find something of relevance in that regard.

In theory. But then again, in theory, communism works.

Drake_tf001,

At least I know I'm not going crazy (insert funny Qzar9999 wise crack comment). And I already have tried the search engine method to find the vid at least a couple times over the years, but with only one result. Youtube I believe it was, I found a Movie Magic episode on Attack of the 50ft Woman 1993 but the clip only detailed the forced perspective technique and the oh-so-old pool scene.

Wet suit and a flashlight... Lol.

Despite the obvious discrepancies with that growth scene, after so many years I still can't compare anything else as better for live action growth process. Disney's Alice in Wonderland was what started my macro-tessa-claustro-philia, but Attack of the 50ft Woman '93 still holds the candle on live action.

If they EvEr do any serious sort of remake, I will personally maim anyone on the production team if the decision is made to skip or skimp on the growth process like what (wasn't) done with 50ft Cheerleader. -_-


And you probably should add socialism to that list of ass-backwards theories.