Better ways for Breast expansion in real life.

[Sephie]

Originally Posted by PrBlahBlahtson

I think what this thread needs is a big ole' "consult with a physician before trying anything" disclaimer...

I would not recommend doing anything that I'm suggesting doing for BE, except maybe sex. But only if it is consentual, between two or more adults or solitary, or with an inanimate object, or trees, or between an adult human and an adult corpse (essentially an inanimate object if you ignore those delicious sacred cows about respect for the dead).

And practice safe sex:
-Do not stick objects into orifaces that are not meant to go into said orifaces unless you are sure you can easily remove them.
-Protect against vernial disease.
-If appropriate use lysterine mouth rinse afterwards.
-Make sure there is a safety word that is easy to remember and all partys agree on.
-Keep the keys in the same place each time so incase of emergency they can be found.
-Have a knife near by to cut the knots.
-Use lube for certain practices otherwise abraisions can form
-If any props are used make sure you are using prop devices and not similar looking real devices, unless the real one is needed. (ex. Guns, swords, whips, etc.)
-make sure the surface on which sex is occuring can support both the wait of participants and the forces of the actions being taken. You don't want the table/chair/cieling/banister to crash mid intercourse.
-If video taping keep close track of videos (maybe youse diferent labeling) to prevent discovery (children/parents/neighbors/fbi/thought police/spouse)
-If electronics are involved do not mix water and vice versa. Exceptions are devices specificly marketed as water proof and even then be leery.
-if you are trying to avoid discovery make sure room is somewhat soundproofed.
-always tip your service. Trust me.
-when shopping for (toy/costume/prop/sexual partner) it does not pay to be cheap. You get what you pay for.
-animals organs are not designed for human use. Copulation with animals can result in internal or external injuries of one or more of the parties involved.
-If you are in the montrose or Heights regions of Houston, your partners gender may no be what it outwardsly appears to be. Just giving a warning.

[darcmetal]

I heard that the Transfer of Fat to the breasts from the womens stomach is great in ways of having less of a chance with back pains. so, does anyone think theres a way for this fat surgery can be non surgical? If there is please explain. I can see this thread was a good idea to put up since everyone has info about ways to make this certain fetish closer to being true and real.

(Warning, Big wall of text ahead, fasten your belts, hold on your pants)

Time for a little (innocently delivered) info.

Stem cell, you heard of them right? They couldn't use 'em 'cause their only source was embryos, and messin' with embryos is bad. Now they created them with a combo of HIV (yes, you read it right) and regular cells (from a donor). How? by forcibly transplanting the (or a) caracteristic gene found in canceric cells, reversing the regular cells into a stem cell-like state, that is unlimited and somewhat controllable proliferation.

What do I mean by that? They managed to recreate heart cells by putting these artificial stem cells in an environment saturated with heart tissue. If I remember correctly, they were trying to recreate a full working organ, so while in this purpose the experiment was a failure, they are now experimenting on breast reconstruction by mixing artificial stem cell with fat tissue and implementing it in vivo to reconstruct the breast.

Now this is innocently-given opinion and hope.

While this is EXPERIMENTAL (7 women will be experimented on with this technique, only for breast reconstruction purposes) this is good news! If (big, biblical-scale IF) scientists would finally pinpoint the cocktail that defines puberty, the only lacking part would be stem cells in the breast that would permit the breast growth, and you would be able to access a second, or n'th puberty as you see fit. The presence of stem cells only in the breast tissue/fat in the breast would ensure puberty-like growth only in this area.

Now, that was breast tissue growth... how about fat tissue?

Basical information is that Human body stores glucides (correct word?) in different forms. First is glucose (same?) which is in blood stream and can be used directly. Then there is glycogen (?) in the liver. This is a glucose polymer and is very easy to form and break and is the form that keeps the glucose rate constant, the pancreas (or another organ) serve as a detector for this rate and if it goes below/above nominal, a signal is sent to the liver (one of which is insulin, and lack of functionnal insulin/insulin receptor is the cause of diabetes, of which there are several sorts but let's skip) and when the liver is full , it sends another signal to -sorta- tell the pancreas to stop asking it and rather ask fat cells to proliferate/fill up. However nobody told me how the fat cells were told to grow/proliferate. Now, if we snatched that signal, made it into a cream... wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to massage your partner with it and get two rewards? (the massage and bigger boobies?) (caution, wear gloves, don't apply on the nipple)

However, this doesn't comply with the breast inflation fetish, JUST the bigger-in-the end breast expansion... remember Eiken?
And the back-aching problems.

Edit: I think I should insist on some things.
Lipids (?) or 'fat' in food terms, is a polymer of glucose too. It can be broke with H2O and enzymes and is created by other enzymes, but at a far higher price (in time and effort) compared with glycogen. That's why it's the third and less prefered form of storage from the body's point of view. Also, the signals sent by the organs are sent through the bloodstream, so they are 'broadcasted' throughout all the body just to be caught by the relevant recepters. And fat as we all know has prefered 'spawn points'.

And because of the pancreas/liver system, the emptying/filling/proliferation of the fat cells is commanded on the scale of the whole body... all the people saying they can sculpt particular parts of the body make me laugh... the only effect you can have is breaking fat mass and provoking its relocation because you're manipulating it (principle of massage-based weight therapy). As a consequence, too much massage of breast could make it shrink, but the fact is it is a very weak fat (it's already maleable, and the breast is sensitive so the necessary force is not easily attained), so massaging has nearly no effect, or it is compensated by the increased flux of fat-stimulating message.

[Bediater]

Ok, this forum started going a bit far off at the middle part so I'll just write a reply. BE is easy, p-pills (no idea what are they called in ur countries but anti pregrancy pills. Many female friends of mine have had their boobs enlargened after they started using them. After this I studied it a little bit more and found out that in 50s or in 40s some ppl were developing p-pills for men they had about 20 testing subjects (human men). they had to suspend the tests because the men started growing boobs (p-pills are made of synthetic hormones that abort pregrancy, even tho it had alotta more of that hormone in it at 40s-50s

[darcmetal]

If someone could find a link of these foreign pregnancy pills then, we just might have something here.

[spongebathe83]

Originally Posted by Bediater

Ok, this forum started going a bit far off at the middle part so I'll just write a reply. BE is easy, p-pills (no idea what are they called in ur countries but anti pregrancy pills. Many female friends of mine have had their boobs enlargened after they started using them. After this I studied it a little bit more and found out that in 50s or in 40s some ppl were developing p-pills for men they had about 20 testing subjects (human men). they had to suspend the tests because the men started growing boobs (p-pills are made of synthetic hormones that abort pregrancy, even tho it had alotta more of that hormone in it at 40s-50s

Sounds good, yay boobs. But I think synthetic hormones also carry a heightened risk of cancer too. Just saying

[thepencilandpaperguy]

How about a low gravity enviroment? That causes breast growth. Just have the subject sleep in it. If she works out all day in regular G, and eats a high fat mean, and then sleeps in low g, wouldn't that increase the rate of fat deposit in the chest?

[Aeon_II]

Well, you do have to remember that rule. There is not way you can pinpoint the parts of where you will gain weight at.

One idea a friend of mine thought was that you could give the person some material to inject into her breasts. Then, you could get nanoscopic robots inside to maybe try to add on what she has. I'm not sure of the full ideas of how it'd work in some ways or what materials you would use (I'm not a scientist in any way) but I did want to throw out something to by analysed to an extent.

[madcow]

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[PrBlahBlahtson]

Originally Posted by Aeon_II

One idea a friend of mine thought was that you could give the person some material to inject into her breasts. Then, you could get nanoscopic robots inside to maybe try to add on what she has. I'm not sure of the full ideas of how it'd work in some ways or what materials you would use (I'm not a scientist in any way) but I did want to throw out something to by analysed to an extent.

Somewhat like stem cells into the mammaries in hopes that the added flesh would decide it should become mammary cells as well. I'm curious if this technique will work out. I believe I saw something where the Japanese are trialing it now.

Originally Posted by madcow

i dont know about zero g environment, but a breast massage would stimulate bloodflow to the breasts, and, coupled with a high fat diet, could result in BE. i saw on ripleys believe it or not, that a tribe in africa are attracted to obesity, so when a girl gets engaged, they fatten her up before the wedding to make her attractive. they use special massage techniques to place the fat where they want it to be (hips and breasts) so this method has actually been used in real life.

I'd rather see this tested in a more scientific method before placing my trust in it, personally.

[Prophet Tenebrae]

Personally, I don't think that you really want to be putting fat into the breasts like that... I imagine it's not quite as dangerous as the whole "inject fat we lipo'd from somewhere else" but even if it works, I can still see it causing problems.

Yes, the Japanese are doing some stem cell stuff... how that's going, I've no idea. It's one of those stories you'll hear repeated a few times but the amount of progress made is never really touched upon... are they in pre-clinical trials? Clinical? You never get these pertinent pieces of information, it seems.

[CandyKing]

well I feel I should post a reply of http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6354451.stm

I remember reading about stem cells injected into breasts to cause growth YEARS ago, so its not like its something they have just started... these doctors have apparently already tried it on subjects and had positive results. So possibly this whole stem cell/fat transfer thing could be something that shows up relatively soon.

Edit: Yes I realize the article is from 2007, nonetheless, its been a while since then, so I have to ASSUME its progressed some.