Health Care Passes the US House!

[TrumanGrace]

The system needed to be reformed, as there are lots of faults with it. No one side should take the sole blame in it, it's just that there is a system established that's not equipped to deal with the situation in the country. That doesn't mean any reform is good reform, I think there are some issues that definitely need looking at.

We have a growing deficiency in primary care doctors (ie: the normal doctor you go to) because the growing costs in med school aren't being compensated enough by the market, doctors are driven into specialties that take them away from normal patient care. While having a large amount of specialists are nice, we need primary care doctors for all the everyday health issues.

There's a big cultural issue. Americans have a lot of self-destructive habits. If we don't get the country to change these habits, we're just going to keep costing ourselves more and more.

Originally Posted by liveordie83

We shouldn't be paying for boob jobs, but liposuction being paid for would reduce hospital visits all over the country..

Not really, because liposuction isn't a treatment for being overweight or obese, it's a cosmetic surgery that removes stubborn pockets of fat to help shape the body. Generally, people who have weight-related health issues related to high weight (like diabetes and heart disease) don't qualify for liposuction. Removing enough fat to make it a viable weight-loss solution is not only extremely complicated, but quite dangerous. And doing it won't change the clogged arteries, nor will it stop a person from overeating and getting it right back.

No, the weight problems in the US are largely a cultural and lifestyle issue, and the only way to solve them is to change that culture and lifestyle.

[Icanseestuffandstuff]

Makes you wish A) Reincarnation were true and B) You'd reincarnate into a Poke'mon.

[TrunKated]

[Soccermom]

Originally Posted by TrunKated

I take it the congressman fielded the answer to the woman's question poorly, since they edited it out.

Also, is this not a logical progression?
Fine-->Larger Fine-->Court Appearance-->Jail?

[Soccermom]

They can be really nice and sugarcoat it all they want with "That is not our intention" but that doesn't change the result.

[LOD]

Originally Posted by Soccermom

I take it the congressman fielded the answer to the woman's question poorly, since they edited it out.

Also, is this not a logical progression?
Fine-->Larger Fine-->Court Appearance-->Jail?

I doubt that is the correct progression...

More like...



Warning--> Fine--> Certified letters detailing the fine--> Garnished Wages

[LOD]

Hospitals already garnish the wages of people that can't afford to save up money to pay off their debts.

What's stopping the IRS from doing the same?

[Supernaut]

It's well that this bill past-because now the Man takes payment due! HaHaHaHaHaHaHa.

The events of the comming year pay the bill, but NOT the compounded interest! ^_-

[kia252]

Originally Posted by liveordie83

I doubt that is the correct progression...

More like...



Warning--> Fine--> Certified letters detailing the fine--> Garnished Wages

Actually, it's a tax rebate for having health insurance instead of an explicit fine for not. I guess if you owed taxes due to not having enough withheld and don't receive the rebate you could refuse/fail to pay. Then it's just a matter of taxes where you can get liens or garnishment, but I'd think it wouldn't be grounds for tax evasion charges and imprisonment.

[LOD]

Originally Posted by kia252

Actually, it's a tax rebate for having health insurance instead of an explicit fine for not. I guess if you owed taxes due to not having enough withheld and don't receive the rebate you could refuse/fail to pay. Then it's just a matter of taxes where you can get liens or garnishment, but I'd think it wouldn't be grounds for tax evasion charges and imprisonment.

I certainly hope so!